3 comments on “Dylann Roof and the Confederate Flag.

  1. I get what you’re saying, but we also have the words of the leaders of the Confederacy on what exactly they fought to defend. It’s pretty clear that yes, the political leaders of the states in question did intend to keep slaves forever or at least for the foreseeable future as they fought to defend the status quo that said whites deserved a position of rulership and blacks deserved their inferior position by virtue of their skin color.

    The People’s Army of Viet Nam was made up of a lot of young men whose stories match your description of the Confederate soldiers. But I don’t think anyone would be too keen on me waving a flag celebrating how Ho Chi Minh and his boys fought so bravely. Similarly, Al Qaeda and ISIS and all the offshoots of Islamic terror are made up of folks “bravely” fighting against an overwhelmingly technologically superior foe. But I’m not going to put up a flag to honor them because I know what they’re fighting for.

    I’m not from the South, I admit it. I don’t pretend to understand the identification with this particular flag. So maybe it’s too easy for me to brush it aside as no big loss. But given what the Confederate states told us about their cause, I’m not surprised that people today view it as a symbol celebrating an army that fought to defend the idea that one group of people are inherently unworthy of basic freedoms afforded all Americans. I can respect what soldiers in that army did. I can respect the strategy and tactics employed by Confederate generals. I can even respect the idea of state’s rights and limited federal government. But we know why they fought for state’s rights–they explicitly stated their reasons in vile racist terms–and so I won’t respect what they ultimately fought and died for.

    My two cents. I appreciate hearing your point of view, but I’ll disagree with you on this one.


    • Strange you should make those comparisons when there are those who worship and deify the image of Che Guevara on t-shirts, flags, etc. and he was a genocidal maniac responsible for thousands and thousands of murdered men, women, and children….and yet he is held as sainted by many on the left. The double standard allowed to exist is shocking in its dishonesty. Again, you think of nothing but the slavery aspect. A lot of these young men couldn’t care a fig about slavery, blacks, or any other parabellum part of that society, they were just men, looking to survive the war. Take for instance Company Aytch by Sam Watkins formerly of the Army of Tennessee…he tells a tale of soldiers and life and death and the horrors of war, not of the wish to continue slavery forever.


      • Fair enough. Where there’s duplicity and a double standard it should be called out. And, no, I don’t think that every confederate soldier was a good for nothing slave owner or outright defender of slavery. A good analogy might be how American soldiers might be judged in some parts of the world a hundred years from now (or even today).
        But the symbol still communicates something no matter how much we may say “that’s not what it’s about.” And its resurgence as a rallying banner during the Dixiecrat push against civil rights does it no favors, again confirming to many what support of the flag might have meant.
        Yes it would be lovely if we’d all talk and get past assumptions like “you have a confederate flag on your truck, you must be a racist.” But the fact is that symbol communicates something that many people aren’t going to be bothered to look past to find the deeper, more thoughtful person. A person doesn’t choose their skin color (Dolezal aside). They do choose what symbols they display and identify with.


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